Market Depth
Moving from small time retail forex accounts to a serious account size comes with some bumps in the road. Most traders see the prices of forex pairs on the screen and assume that they can buy and sell unlimited quantities at any time. Although the forex market is the largest market of any in the world, making it the most liquid, there is still a limited size to what you can trade at any moment.
Reading Forex Market Depth
NinjaTrader and MB Trading both make market depth information available in their trading screens. It shows where all of the nearby liquidity lies. Say, for example, that you wanted to place a big order for EUR/USD. You can see in the screenshot from MB Trading’s platform that the liquidity gets bigger as you get further from the price. They call these “Level 2″ quotes, which is jargon taken from equities traders.

MB Trading's Navigator shows the market depth of the EUR/USD. Light colors show the best prices, darker prices indicate distance from the best price.
I took this screenshot in the late afternoon when liquidity is at its worst. The best bid shows a depth of 200, which is measured in mini lots of 10,000. You could sell up to 2 million EUR/USD and get filled at that price. Notice, however, that most of the liquidity is further away. 3 million sits at the next best price and another 3 million even further from that. The net available liquidity is 8 million on the short side and 6 million on the long side for a total of 14 million.
The FX Pro screen in NinjaTrader makes it even clearer. I took this screenshot several minutes later, which is why liquidity numbers are different. One thing I really like about this screen is that NinjaTrader converts the liquidity depth into more tangible numbers. The formatting makes more sense to me. Plus, it’s much easier to keep track of the varying spread.
What you learned in economics doesn’t apply to trading. Dealing in bulk actually leads to worse pricing instead of improved pricing. The reason is that forex instruments are so standardized that there’s effectively never a lack of customers. It’s really an issue of getting how much much you want at a certain speed.
Only a fool would hit the market with 20M EURUSD instantaneously unless you’re desperate to exit a position. If you push a market order judging solely from the quote on the screen, you may get 2-8 million filled at the displayed price. But, the rest of the order will get filled at progressively worse prices. The traders making a market want their pound of flesh for letting someone into the market so quickly.
Traders cannot see the liquidity depth of most brokers because they elect not to show it. Their platforms encourage the buy this, buy that psychology. The more information that they broadcast, the more bandwidth that’s required, which means that better servers are required.
The EURUSD is the most liquid forex pair in the world. This varies largely by broker, but at any given time you should be able to trade 20-30 million EUR/USD. That doesn’t mean that you’ll get filled at the price on the screen. What that means is that that is the sum quantity available at any given moment.
Some brokers hide their quantity. It’s not like the stock market where if there are 15,000 shares of Microsoft ready to trade at any given moment, you can see 100% of the liquidity available. In forex, as an OTC market, the broker may wish to restrict the viewable book for a few reasons.
If you offer markets from say 5 banks, it’s very rare for the broker to feed the best competitive price and to let the banks fight it out? Why? Because the broker also needs the banks to stick around when nobody wants to trade.
It’s an informal agreement that if I’m retail broker A and UBS is my main liquidity feed, I go out of my way to give UBS the good flow. My customers expect to trade during NFP and other volatile markets (although they really shouldn’t!). If the brokerage simply lets the banks fight it out, then the banks have every reason to let the brokerage rot on the vine when their customers want to trade but it’s bad for the banks. The banks certainly don’t want to take positions in volatile markets. Their only incentive for doing so is if the “good flow” that the forex broker sends during normal markets incentivizes them to accept the risk of losing more than they care to during NFP.
News traders are the most likely to try trading during a thin market. They are also the most likely to complain about not being able to trade. These are the arguments to which I’m least sympathetic. If you’re trading the news, you are overwhelmingly likely to have less than one year of trading experience. The decision has nothing to do with researching systems or evaluating whether or not it’s a good idea. It has everything to do with gambling.
Retail traders are the most likely to trade during volatile events, not just news but really any type of momentum. Almost everyone follows a breakout or momentum strategy. It has everything to do with what traders perceive as the most likely outcome. When the market explodes in one direction, it takes nerves of steel to stand in front of the freight train. Therefore, it’s probably a good idea because it’s counter-intuitive.
Trends happen so slowly that they don’t excite the gambling buzz that most retail forex traders are after. My friend Afshin in Dublin fell victim to this last week. He saw the EUR/USD rising day after day after day. He felt like it was simply overdue for a correction. The urge to participate, rather than coming from a desire for a quick hit, instead came from a desire to be right before there was any clear indication of the opportunity to be right. The point is that what feels natural to do is often precisely the wrong thing to do. It feels natural to every other trader, too.
Market Depth and Direction
One research project that I’d eventually love to do is to study how market depth on any given side of a market affects direction. Some traders run simple liquidity businesses where they receive trading rebates in exchange for accepting the risk of holding a position over the short run. These entities are less likely to concern themselves with picking the direction of the market.
Trading desks that make markets, however, often want the flow so that they can establish a position and earn the spread while doing so. These entities are picking direction – and they are backed by very intelligent math geeks with PhDs and a lot of time on their hands. If those desks make a visibly deep market and it’s sufficiently one sided, then it’s probably safe to assume that they expect to the market to move in the opposite direction.
When you’re buying a forex pair, the bank is selling it to you. So if everyone stacks the liquidity so that you can buy but the liquidity is thin on the short side, it should be telling you that the smart money wants to go short right now.
Ten heresies of finance
I set a reading list for new programming hires before they ever interact with customers. OneStepRemoved’s newest programmer, Jon Rackley, comes with an outstanding background in programming, but almost no market knowledge. Jon is under my wing for the next few months. My goal is to fully indoctrinate him on my market views.
One of the most useful, high level overview of trading dynamics is Benoit Mandelbrot’s The (Mis)behavior of Markets. My philosophy is that before you attack a problem, you first need to understand the problem. Building trading robots is the problem that our customers face every day. One reason that many would-be automated traders fail is that they understand very little about how markets function. They try to solve a problem that they don’t understand very well.
Mandelbot’s “10 heresies of finance” sums up my view of markets quite well. I made Jon read the book as part of his job training because has no trading experience. If you’re relatively new to markets or think it’s time to step back and re-evaluate your approach, then I highly recommend this book.
The 10 heresies of finance
- Markets are turbulent.
- Markets are far more risky than the standard theories imagine. Mandelbrot does do a very good job throughout his book explaining how unpredictable and complex market behavior really is.
- Market timing matters greatly. Big gains and losses concentrate into small packages of time. He calls this trading time.
- Prices often leap, not glide. That adds to the risk.
- Time is flexible. Some times of day are more important than others
- Markets in all places and ages work alike. Human behavior never changes, even if the mood does
- Markets are inherently uncertain. Bubbles are inevitable. We will always be greedy
- Markets are deceptive.
- Forecasting prices may be perilous, but you can estimate the odds of future volatility
- In financial markets, the idea of “value” has limited value.
Jon found Mandelbrot’s comparison between wind turbulence and market dynamics the most compelling part of his argument. It’s conceptually difficult to accept the idea of human behavior acting like the wind. The math of the two behaviors is identical, which is somewhat difficult to accept emotionally. What I like about the argument is that it makes for a beautiful metaphor.
When a storm comes up, it’s noteworthy. The average wind speed picks up. People notice that part. What everyone really notices and gossips about are the wind gusts. Staring out the window and watching the family oak tree bend a quarter way to the ground makes an impression.
Wind gusts are essentially market volatility. Events like a collapse of the euro or a surprise NFP number are the violent gusts of wind that make the jaws of traders everywhere drop to the ground. One gust begets another gust, packing themselves densely in time. Mandelbrot would reference the
increase in gusts as trading time speeding up.
If you enjoy these types of ideas, you might find our free resetting moving average indicator useful. It builds on Mandelbrot’s fractal approach to markets, negating the idea of a true average. The resetting moving average tries to act as a minimum reference point by changing its period in step with market volatility.
Euro collapse
I’m writing this over the Atlantic on my way home from Dublin. I’m absolutely convinced that the euro is at the start of its death spiral.
Many of you know that I travel to Ireland about once a month to work with Traders Now and their q algorithm. I love the math, the programming and all the strategizing that goes into developing a fully automated trading system. One of my favorite parts, however, is the Friday night before I leave. Kieran and I play a long game of poker with his buddies.
The first few hands did not treat me kindly. I was busy chewing my sour grapes when Kieran mentioned one tiny, little thing about the euro. The place exploded with rumors and opinions. The poker game stopped entirely for fifteen minutes.
Mind you, this is not a poker table full of financial professionals. It actually seems to be a good cross section of Irish society. We had everyone from a plumber and retired taxi driver to a multimillionaire real estate developer sitting at the table.
The first thing that came up were the rumors of what would happen if the euro did in fact collapse. Two out of the nine players had independently heard rumors of the government printing Irish pounds and stockpiling them. They also mentioned a rumor of plans to completely lock down the country for three days in the event of a collapse. Banks close, businesses close, the airport and ferries close. Life goes into suspended animation.
These are wild rumors, mind you. I’d argue that it’s really not important whether they’re hard facts or bold faced lies. Perception is reality. It’s becoming obvious to me that the foundations of the fiat euro are growing shaky.
Modern currencies depend entirely on faith in the government in order to continue. They are, after all, simply scraps of paper and electronic entries in a bank’s database. The value of the paper itself is negligible. When ordinary Joes are beginning to question the status quo and whether or not the system is viable, the jig is up (Irish pun intended).
As more people question the system, a small percentage of them begin to take real action. The guys at the poker table seemed to like the idea of Swiss francs in spite of the Swiss National Bank’s peg to the euro. They also mentioned the US dollar as a second best option. I don’t necessarily agree with that in the long run, although I’m sure that will be the short term affect.
The small increase in euro selling begets more people worrying about their savings and assets. They see the price moving adversely, which spurns them into taking action, too. The effect is that the rumors and fear cascade into an avalanche of collapse. It takes on exponential growth as anyone with anything of worth tries to offload it in an attempt to protect themselves financially. Actually, it looks just like the bank runs that Latvia recently experienced.
PS: I lost badly at the poker game. 25 hands that never came out on top, combined with players who will never be bet out of the game makes for a bad night. I walked away with EUR 50 loss. Too bad that’s still worth $65.



